FINANCE / CLAIMS COMMITTEE ACTIONS

JANUARY 2, 2002


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ATTENDANCE: Bruce Kimmel, Chairman; Chris Perone, Ken Baker;

Douglas Sutton, Joseph Mann (7:50 p.m.), Matthew Miklave (8:30 p.m.)

STAFF: Jack Miller, Finance Director; Richard Darling,

Director Budgets & Systems; Lisa Biagarelli, Tax Collector; External Auditors

Mr. Kimmel called the meeting to order at 7:45 p.m. and moved the discussion on the Elderly Tax Relief Program up on the agenda for the benefit of the citizens wishing to comment.APPROVE MINUTESOne correction was noted: Page 4, Ms. McCarthy said Mr. Kimmel’s understanding was correct should have read incorrect.** MR. KIMMEL MOVED TO ACCEPT THE MINUTES OF

DECEMBER 5, 2001 AS CORRECTED.

** MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.CLAIMS COMMITTEE AGENDAMr. Mann arrived at 7:50 p.m.Ms. Biagiarelli summarized the claims report. She pointed out that an approval was needed with regard to the last page on which Nissan made a special request in the amount of $6,021.62. ** MR. KIMMEL MOVED TO APPROVE THE SPECIAL

REQUEST FOR NISSAN MOTORS.

** MOTION PASSED WITH FOUR VOTES IN FAVOR, ONE

ABSTENTION (MR. MANN).

DELINQUENT TAX REPORTMs. Biagiarelli summarized the delinquent taxpayers report showing the highest outstanding dollar amounts. Delinquent collection is in process on City and Board of Education employees who owe taxes. December was spent on collecting personal property taxes that were delinquent.Mr. Kimmel stated that it seems to be an overwhelming task of sending out attorneys to collect taxes. He inquired whether there are other options for collecting the taxes. Ms. Biagiarelli stated that the tax collection is in better condition than it has been in past years. Lien assignments have been imposed and another option is tax auctions. This option would include all properties regardless of the position of the individual, i.e., elderly, disabled. She stated that the current system works well now. Once an account goes to attorney, the control is in the attorney’s hands, not the Tax Office. Mr. Kimmel asked whether the City functions as neighboring towns. Ms. Biagiarelli stated that accounts are turned over after two years and the accounts are reported on by the attorneys regularly to the Tax Office. Mr. Kimmel asked to have some ideas that might streamline the process and collect the taxes more quickly and efficiently. Ms. Biagiarelli will present options that she had presented to the previous Committee which she feels reflects the weak point being personal property. Ms. Biagiarelli reported verbally on the December collections. There is a high collection rate going on for current taxes, but the delinquent collections are low.Mr. Miller commented that Norwalk’s collection rate exceeds that of Stamford.Mr. Miklave arrived at 8:30 p.m.PRESENTATION BY EXTERNAL AUDITTORSMr. Miller stated that a presentation of the outside audit of the accounts and operations would be made. The auditors distributed the communications that are mandated for the client by the Government and the State (A-133 and State Signle Audit). This is an annual process. Mr. Miller commented that things that come out of the report may require actions by the department involved. He suggested that Mr. Kimmel inquire what actions would be taken to correct the ED001findings from the Board of Education. The auditor stated that the five pages of information were submitted by December 31, 2001 as required. Mr. Kimmel asked that the information be ready for presentation at the next meeting for review.He also inquired about the two audits headlined on the written report. The auditors explained the reports related to grants and financial reporting standards. Mr. Kimmel inquired whether there is a comment made when the dollars shown differ greatly from the budget at year-end. The auditors stated that if it is extreme, a notation is made. Mr. Miller commented that there is a conservate amount projected so there may be a difference. All the submitted data from the audit will be available in written format at the next meeting.DISCUSSION OF ELDERLY TAX RELIEF PROGRAMMr. Kimmel stated that this item was added due to the household provision that was added last year to the Ordinance and budget planning process that is going on at this time.Mr. Whitman was asked to address the Committee as members are new and unfamiliar with the Ordinance. He gave an overview of the provision for the elderly. He stated that the State of Connecticut has two programs for the elderly, a "Freeze Program", which applies only to those who applied when it was instituted, and the Homeowner Tax Credit Program. The City programs are reimbused by the State and at no cost to the City. There are currently approximately 1,050 people on the program at a cost of $550,000 to $575,000.Mr. Kimmel read the provisions and the requirements to obtain the tax relief. Mr. Whitman explained the application period which is a two year cycle to put citizens into the program. Mr. Kimmel stated that he did not feel he wanted to have the listing of those receiving the assistance. This was approved in Ordinance to be distributed to the Council members. The list has not been issued as yet according to Mr. Whitman.Mr. Kimmel stated his concern about the consideration of household income due to additional relatives in the house causing some elderly to become ineligible. He stated that looking at the income of other individuals in the home that may put the elderly over, is unfair.Mr. Whitman commented that there are a few towns doing this and he did not know about any others with household provisions in their ordinance. A survey was conducted and 58% did not approve of the provision. People had mentioned that the citizens had brought this up for review since they submitted the information and it made them ineligible. It was also questioned by some that a loop hole was created because people might put the property in the name of someone who was eligible although they were not.Mr. Kimmel said he did not think it was fair that if someone had some complex family issues that were involved, returning children due to divorce or illness, that the City could not just assume that the people were not eligible.Mr. Whitman stated it is a lot of work to assess this process. He stated that it was brought to his office by angry citizens and those who don’t qualify because of people in the home making them being over income. Mr. Mann stated that he did not recall hearing the explanation given this evening by Mr. Whitman. He felt that the household provision be repealed in light of the comments by Mr. Whitman and Mr. Miller. Mr. Miller stated that there is no extra time being expended and the departments are not policing peoples’ homes. Mr. Perone inquired how the amount of relief was developed. Mr. Whitman stated that the Council set the amount. He stated that it is balanced to what the State sets and the City uses a percentage of that number to determine the amount annually.Mr. Miller commented that the Ordinance that provided the relief had not been changed since 1983. This was an extremely modest relief. The projection is approximately $575,00 that would have to be retrieve from others. Mr. Perone asked what does the department do if a complaint is filed about a neighbor. Mr. Whitman stated that there was no answer at this time as there have been no incidences of this activity. He stated the procedure is being written up to handle such calls. The relief was requested by individuals, it was not put into place because neighbors called on others. Mr. Perone stated that if an individual is at $33,500 and it goes up to $33,600 on the odd year, how does the department handle it. Mr. Whitman stated that if the income goes up or down, the individual is to notify the Tax Assessor’s office, but they do not police this and hopefully people will contact the office. Mr. Baker inquired what triggered the survey. Mr. Whitman stated it was to find out what people were seeking and those who might qualify for a relief, how they felt about it.Mr. Mann commented that the elderly were given an Ordinance that shorted them. However, they are law abiding and they will comply now that it is law. He requested a copy of the survey to review for this Committee.Mr. Kimmel suggested a joint public hearing of this Committee and the Ordinance committee to gather further information. The Council members present said they would relay this back to the Ordinance Committee for arranging the joint meeting.Mr. Miklave asked to see the paperwork that has to be filled out for the relief. He also asked if there was a count of households turned down due to household finances being over limit. Mr. Whitman stated there may be none as 2000 was an off year. There is no tracking at this point. Timing is critical as the new applications must go out by law on February 1, 2002. ** MR. KIMMEL MOVED TO HAVE A JOINT MEETING WITH

THE ORDINANCE COMMITTEE, ON A DATE THAT IS CONVENIENT FOR THEM, TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE ELDERLY TAX RELIEF PROGRAM ORDINANCE FOR FURTHER PUBLIC DISCUSSION AND INFORMATION GATHERING.

** MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.Ms. Sullivan stated that some of the citizens are unhappy people and were not pleased to have their names on a list. She further stated that two younger people living with an elderly person would not be on it just to collect $500 off their taxes. She stated some are together due to illness, broken marriages and the City should not judge the individuals. She stated that there are just about 1,000 asking for relief for themselves, including elderly and the disabled/handicapped. She further stated that the State guidelines are for the entire State. Norwalk sits in Fairfield County, the highest in the Union. She stated that the guidelines do not fit Norwalk, the guidelines should be regional. She said that the elderly comprised and accepted the higher number and the Council added the household headcount "behind closed doors" after the elderly agreed to the Ordinance. The average owner has lived in their homes for 35 plus years and they have paid taxes all those years. She submitted an article from Time Magazine. She said the elderly will not break the law, but they will complain and still pay the tax.APPROVE RESOLUTIONMr. Miller introduced the need for the special appropriation for a roofing replacement project.Mr. Kimmel resolved to:** APPROVE A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE

OF $3,915,000.00 BONDS OF THE CITY TO MEET THE APPROPRIATION OF THE BOARD OF EDUCATION ROOF REPLACEMENT PROJECT AND THE MAKING OF TEMPORARY BORROWINGS FOR SUCH PURPOSE. THE AUTHORIZATION FOR THE SPECIAL CAPITAL BUDGET APPROPRIATION OF $3,915,000.00 FOR THE BOARD OF EDUCATION ROOF REPLACEMENT PROJECT-ACCOUNT NO. 09025010-5777-C0242 WHICH WAS APPROVED BY THE COMMON COUNCIL ON DECEMBER 11, 2001.

** MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.UPDATE ON FISCAL YEAR 2002-03 OPERATING BUDGETMr. Kimmel asked Mr. Miller to briefly describe the Norwalk districts.Mr. Miller distributed a summary of the departmental requests, projected mill rate based on these requests, distribution of the Tax Levy and a copy of the Mayor’s letter to the departments. The Mayor has requested that the department heads review their requests and reduce the amounts to lower the operating budget for 2002-2003. PriceWaterhouseCoopers has been asked to look at the Board of Education requests. Mr. Miller presented a proforma, which means the numbers were as requested with no changes.The profoma is the number the Finance Department would have expected. Mr. Kimmel asked questions of Mr. Miller which he addressed individually regarding the proforma budget items.Mr. Miklave noted some additional items under Less Non-Tax Revenues. He inquired whether there would be reductions. Mr. Miller commented the number is reasonably safe. Mr. Miklave further inquired about the fund balance transfers. Mr. Miller responded that a lower that number opens the City up for problems. Flexibility is needed and interest is earned on the money in the fund balance account. The Fire Department has duplication in their budget numbers due to anticipated vacancies and staffing changes. Regarding the Board of Education staffing requests and additional teachers the question was raised whether there was a priority that is followed by Mr. Miklave. Mr. Miller stated it is the efficiency and delivery of each department versus priority of one department over another. Mr. Mann questioned the combination of personnel and other options as to whether they have been looked into in order to reduce the proposed budget increase. Mr. Miller discussed this issue referencing the report.Ms. Rivas stated she agreed with Mr. Miller and that some departments will have to reduce services.Mr. Sutton inquired about the revaluation increases. Mr. Miller referenced the bar chart that was distributed.Mr. Perrone asked what is the budget number the City is seeking. Mr. Miller stated that a percent reduction across the board would not work..Mr. Miklave stated there would be pain in cutting this year’s budget with all that is going on in the City and in the economy.Mr. Kimmel stated that he wished to hold a special meeting to discuss the cap and hold a public hearing on budget.** MR. KIMMEL MOVED TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING ON

JANUARY 15, 2002 AT 8 P.M. IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS AND HOLD A SPECIAL FINANCE COMMITTEE MEETING IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING THE PUBLIC HEARING.

** MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.DISCUSSION - CREATION OF A PARKING AUTHORITYMr. Miller stated that there are parking structures coming up soon which must have money set aside. In light of other projects in the City, a parking authority is recommended so that the dollars do not erode the ability of the City for school buildings. Mr. Mann expressed that there is only a short period of time to do this. Mr. Miller replied that there is much to be done for an authority to issue bonds for the parking facilities. An ordinance and a number of people will have to be appointed. Mr. Miller asked that there be a joint meeting with the Ordinance Committee to have a public hearing to create the authority. Ms. Rivas suggested getting the draft ordinance to the committee so that the process could move forward. Mr. Miklave asked whether there is a figure for the deficit that the City would carry for the revenue bonds. Mr. Miller said he is trying to obtain a forecast from the underwriters. The employees would be on City payroll, but the parking authority would handle all the expenses. Mr. Miklave’s concern was the reduction of the deficit for the City and any profits to be gained.** MR. KIMMEL MOVED TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING TO

CREATE A PARKING AUTHORITY.

** MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.** MR. BAKER MOVED TO ADJOURN.** MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.Mr. Kimmel adjourned the meeting at 10:15 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,Alvina L. Richardson Decker Telesco Secretarial Services
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